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Post by mona on Aug 13, 2021 13:27:06 GMT
willowsmum That's so kind of you to say 🧡 ffiscool I hope so too. I'm more worried about breezie when it comes to sharing cage with another bird. Cookie can survive it well.. Breezie is pretty docile.. he would rather get hurt than fighting back. I have never seen him fighting back or even screaming back for bullying him. He just keeps running away. Even with a new budgie, there's no guarantee how he/she will be. There are no male budgies in mom's flock I can keep with him - they are either notorious or hyperactive.. Mishty is always the one bullied by everyone and stays in a corner, but still not sure how she would do if kept with breezie..
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Post by ffiscool on Aug 13, 2021 13:35:37 GMT
I think all you can do is try. Is it possible to have her in another cage next to Breezie first? If she’s used to retreating into a corner, she may be so glad of a bud who won’t bother her.
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Post by mona on Aug 13, 2021 13:57:01 GMT
You got it! We have mishty in a separate cage right now, since she was being bullied and moulting too. She is happy being all alone right now.. She is next to Breezie. I haven't seen any female bird like that. But her actions are all female like. I'll post a photo in different thread for gender, but I think she is a female. It doesn't matter though.. right now, I'm open to anyone for breezie..
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Post by tweetiepiesmom on Aug 13, 2021 14:44:49 GMT
It sounds like a good plan. Good that Breezie is better now. Hopefully you are better also. Once the pairs get together and you see how they behave, you can decide if keeping two pairs is too much for you and then make a decision based on your well being.
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Post by ariella on Aug 13, 2021 21:47:11 GMT
Really hope that the pairings work so that you can feel reassured both Cookie and Breezie are happy, safe and getting the company they need without concerns of bullying or worrying behaviour. I know how anxious you must be, but really hope you and your mum can make the right changes and find something that works for the birds and for you. Your mum is still with you for a while longer isn’t she, so you can take time with introductions and trying new pairings. I’m sad you feel so detached. You’ve had a hard time of it, but hope you’re looking after yourself and getting sleep. 🧡
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Post by blueelephant on Aug 14, 2021 5:31:23 GMT
It's good to hear Breezie has been out for a fly and I think the new pairings sounds like a good idea. I hope it goes smoothly.
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Post by mona on Aug 18, 2021 18:40:59 GMT
He was tired after a day out of cage, that he slept for two days. We have shifted mishty to breezie's cage today. So far so good, except finding the sleeping space. As usual, breezie moved to a lower perch which honestly, isn't very comfortable to him. When will this boy learn to fight back?! Mishty is a very nervous bird, to the extent that she gets diarrhea when she is nervous. She has some issues with her front two toes in one leg and she can't bend it normally. She is normally the sickest bird in mom's flock and is weak health wise. If things work out, I'll have to take care of 2 sensitive birds.. that would be worth it, if breezie can get a birdie company.. We are waiting for her to be normal and settle down to see how it goes. I really wish that it works. Breezie was so excited to see another budgie in the cage and he wanted to just interact with her, until he was told off. Fingers crossed. I think we will observe them together for 4 to 5 days to see if they can co exist together. My mom says that she was just very nervous today to find her sleeping space. We have a similar ladder that she used to sleep on, in mom's cage (we have two of everything split between us). So, maybe if she isn't very nervous tomorrow, I'll arrange one on a corner up high.. I wasn't able to leave the birdie room for even 5 mins today. We ensured that one of us was always in their room till they settle down for sleep. I am so anxious! If this works out okay, we will try Cookie with Berry. She screams a lot these days.. Is 4-5 days enough to see if they can co exist or should we wait out more? We intend to see if she chases or pushes breezie down, pulls his feather and all things that Cookie does to him.. if she doesn't do that, I think they can co exist. A hazy pic from the day time.. Both were taking a nap.
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Post by tweetiepiesmom on Aug 18, 2021 19:17:01 GMT
Great that things look ok between them!
I think 4-5 days is long enough to make sure they can get along. The relationship between the two will continue to evolve over time but won't change drastically. That is true of my two guys. Buddy has realized that Tweetie Pie is not going to play when they first wake up, so he goes over and gives Tweetie Pie morning beaks and then happily goes to play on his own. I think it takes time for them to learn what the other likes.
Maybe other people will have better insight.
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Post by ffiscool on Aug 18, 2021 19:34:30 GMT
Shame a lot of humans don’t adopt that way of thinking, lol
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Post by ariella on Aug 18, 2021 20:10:54 GMT
Really hope Mishty and Breezie become the best of friends. I agree that the first few days will give a good indication. Hopefully in that time Mishty will lose her nerves and her droppings will settle and maybe Breezie will realise he isn’t going to get dominated in the same way as with Cookie. Good luck.
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Post by mona on Aug 20, 2021 9:23:15 GMT
They seem to get along well.. and that's such a relief..!!! I feel so relaxed looking at them like that and realized I had been under so much stress sub consciously! They shared the same food plate and even the platform perch to sleep. We tried putting Cookie along with mom's flock and that didn't go well.. 🤦♀️ So we thought about getting a male budgie for Cookie and we are looking if we can adopt than getting from the pet store. There are no adoption websites or facebook groups. I have heard of adoption of birdies only via pet shop. So , have called up a few, but not very hopeful. Cookie is very much frustrated. It's natural, since she sees everyone else together with other budgies. I'm nervous if she would really get along with even a new budgie. We aren't comfortable pulling out one more bird from mom's flock. The flock is a bit disturbed with Mishty out of there.. Taking out one more bird would disturb them even more.. So, we would get two female birdies for mom's and one male for mine.. I really hope it goes well.. I'll end up keeping 2 pairs in separate cages and separate out of cage times. For Cookie, how should make her feel better?! The new bird will have to be quarantined, so it will still take a long time...
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Post by willowsmum on Aug 20, 2021 11:19:56 GMT
Wow, that's a huge relief that they have settled together so well. Cookies intro sounds like it may be more difficult but you never know, you could find exactly the right friend for her. At least you can be confident that she can stand up for herself with a new friend. Breezie was always going to have the trickier introduction I think so it's fantastic that it went so well. Mishty is perfect for him
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Post by tweetiepiesmom on Aug 20, 2021 15:47:08 GMT
Fabulous that Mishty and Breezie are getting along so well and will be good long term companions. How is Cookie with your mom's flock? Does she visit with them? Maybe she doesn't need to be part of a pair. I'm thinking of Marianne Marlow little Iris who's just a little busybody visiting with all the others and inserting herself into whatever they are doing. Maybe Cooke would be happy just being the queen.
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Post by mona on Aug 20, 2021 18:09:15 GMT
tweetiepiesmom Cookie chases every bird in my mom's flock.. 🤦♀️ Mom's flock is closely knit. They would stand to fight and protect each other. So, they ended fighting with Cookie too. We were on our toes to watch them if anyone hurts another one.. I hope she was more friendly like the ones in my mom's flock. They share and live together well (Touch wood). Often, when birdies are irritated or frustrated, they argue or fight back.. Cookie just pulls wings and tail feathers, chases everyone, pushes them down.. I'm not sure what's bothering her to behave like that. Separation from Breezie must not be the reason, since she had been doing that with him too.. There's variety in food, shredding, toys and engagement.. I often show her videos in my phone too and talk/sing to her, give her treats to calm her down.. It doesn't seem like she gets bored.. willowsmum I'm not worried about Cookie, but the new birdie.. I hope the new birdie is strong enough to deal with her 🤦♀️ I hope I don't end up with a pair that doesn't get along well. I have already texted my cage vendor to ask about another large cage with less height for breezie and mishty. The medium sized cage is small for 2 budgies.. We can stack one cage on top of another.. I have added a plastic sheet on the cage grid and covered it with turkish towel.. then cover it with paper/cage liner. After breezie's injury, I'm always afraid if any birdie could fall down and hurt themselves due to the cage grid..
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Post by tweetiepiesmom on Aug 20, 2021 18:24:22 GMT
Hmmm, Cookie is a most curious case! Maybe she needs some chamomile tea. Maybe someone here has ideas of how to pair up Cookie.
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